E71T-GS is the budget self-shielded flux-core wire. E71T-11 is the full-spec version. Both work without shielding gas, run on DCEN, and deposit 71 ksi weld metal, but E71T-GS is limited to single-pass welds while E71T-11 handles multi-pass work. That one difference determines which wire you need. If every joint you weld gets done in a single pass (most thin material and small fillet welds), E71T-GS saves you money. If you ever build up a joint with two or more passes, you need E71T-11.
The price difference is real: E71T-GS typically costs $1-3 less per pound than E71T-11. On a 10 lb spool, that’s $10-30 saved. For hobby welders burning a spool every few months, the savings add up. But using E71T-GS where E71T-11 is needed creates defective welds, so the choice isn’t purely economic.
Classification Differences
| Specification | E71T-GS | E71T-11 |
|---|---|---|
| AWS Standard | A5.20 (general) | A5.20 (specific) |
| Tensile Strength | 70,000 PSI min | 70,000 PSI min |
| Position | All-position | All-position |
| Polarity | DCEN | DCEN |
| Shielding | Self-shielded | Self-shielded |
| Multi-pass | No (single-pass only) | Yes |
| CVN Impact Required | No | Yes (20 ft-lbs at -20F) |
| Chemistry Standardized | No (manufacturer-specific) | Yes (AWS-specified ranges) |
| AWS D1.1 Pre-qualified | No | Yes (some WPS) |
The “GS” designation means “General Specification.” AWS A5.20 created this catch-all category for wires that meet basic tensile and position requirements but don’t fit into the numbered classifications (T-1, T-2, T-3, etc.). There are no standardized flux chemistry, toughness, or multi-pass requirements for GS wires. Each manufacturer formulates their own version, which means two different brands of E71T-GS may perform quite differently.
E71T-11, by contrast, has AWS-specified chemical composition ranges, mandatory Charpy V-notch impact testing, and qualification for multi-pass deposits. It’s a controlled, reproducible product with standardized performance expectations.
Why Single-Pass Only Matters
The single-pass limitation on E71T-GS isn’t arbitrary. Self-shielded flux-core wires use nitrogen-bearing compounds in the flux to scavenge oxygen. In a single-pass weld, the nitrogen reacts with the deoxidizers and gets tied up in the slag. The finished weld has acceptable nitrogen levels.
In a multi-pass weld, each subsequent pass reheats the previous pass. The nitrogen that was tied up in the initial deposit can re-dissolve into the weld metal during reheating. Excess nitrogen in steel causes:
- Strain-age embrittlement: The weld becomes brittle over time, especially under vibration or impact loading
- Porosity in later passes: Nitrogen gas bubbles form as the previously deposited metal is reheated
- Reduced ductility: High nitrogen locks dislocations and reduces the ability of the weld to deform before cracking
E71T-11 controls nitrogen through different flux chemistry that limits the total nitrogen available and uses more effective nitrogen-fixing compounds. The result is a deposit that stays ductile and sound through multiple reheating cycles.
Practical consequence: If you run two passes with E71T-GS, the second pass may look fine on the surface but could have embrittled the first pass underneath. The weld won’t fail during welding; it fails later under load or impact. This is a hidden defect that only shows up in destructive testing or service failures.
Mechanical Properties Comparison
| Property | E71T-GS (Typical) | E71T-11 (Typical) |
|---|---|---|
| Tensile Strength | 72,000 - 82,000 PSI | 76,000 - 85,000 PSI |
| Yield Strength | 58,000 - 68,000 PSI | 62,000 - 70,000 PSI |
| Elongation | 18 - 24% | 22 - 28% |
| CVN Impact (-20F) | Not certified | 25 - 40 ft-lbs |
E71T-GS typically runs slightly lower in elongation and doesn’t have certified impact toughness values. For single-pass work on non-critical joints, these numbers are adequate. But the lack of guaranteed toughness means you’re taking the manufacturer’s word on performance rather than having AWS-certified test data.
When to Use E71T-GS
E71T-GS is the right wire when all of these conditions are true:
Single-pass joints only. Every weld gets completed in one pass. This covers:
- Small fillet welds (up to 1/4" leg) on material under 3/8"
- Lap joints on sheet metal and thin plate
- Tack welding for fit-up
- Light repair work on non-structural items
- Hobby projects, yard art, furniture
No code requirements. The work isn’t governed by AWS D1.1, ASME, or any structural code. E71T-GS isn’t pre-qualified for code work.
Cost matters more than performance margin. On hobby and occasional-use spools that might sit for months between uses, saving $1-3/lb adds up.
The material is thin enough for single-pass completion. If the base metal is under 1/4", most joints can be completed in a single pass with appropriate wire size and settings.
When to Use E71T-11
E71T-11 is required when any of these conditions exist:
Multi-pass welding. Any joint requiring two or more passes needs E71T-11. This includes:
- Fillet welds over 5/16" leg size
- Groove welds on plate over 1/4"
- Buildup and repair on worn parts
- V-groove butt joints on structural material
Structural or semi-structural work. Even non-code work that bears a load (trailer frames, equipment mounts, lifting fixtures) deserves the toughness and reliability of E71T-11.
Guaranteed mechanical properties. When you need documented, AWS-certified tensile, yield, elongation, and impact values, E71T-11 provides them. E71T-GS doesn’t.
Consistency across brands. Because E71T-11 has standardized chemistry, switching brands produces more predictable results than switching E71T-GS brands, where each manufacturer uses their own formulation.
Settings Comparison
Both wires run on DCEN with no shielding gas. Settings are similar for the same wire diameter:
| Parameter | E71T-GS | E71T-11 |
|---|---|---|
| Polarity | DCEN | DCEN |
| 0.030" voltage | 15 - 19V | 15 - 19V |
| 0.030" wire feed | 120 - 280 IPM | 120 - 300 IPM |
| 0.035" voltage | 16 - 22V | 16 - 22V |
| 0.035" wire feed | 130 - 320 IPM | 150 - 350 IPM |
| CTWD | 3/4" - 1" | 3/4" - 1" |
| Drive rolls | Knurled V-groove | Knurled V-groove |
The setup process is identical: DCEN polarity, no gas, knurled drive rolls, 3/4" to 1" stickout, drag technique. If you’ve been running one wire and switch to the other, your settings transfer directly.
Arc Behavior Differences
Despite similar settings, many welders notice subtle differences in how the two wires run:
E71T-GS: Often produces a slightly softer arc with less penetration. Some brands are smoother and quieter than their E71T-11 counterparts. The bead profile on single-pass fillets is generally comparable.
E71T-11: Slightly more aggressive arc in many formulations. The added deoxidizers and controlled flux chemistry can produce a more forceful, spattery arc. The bead is sometimes slightly more convex.
These differences vary by brand and wire diameter. Lincoln’s NR-211-MP (an E71T-11) is widely regarded as one of the smoothest-running flux-core wires available. Some budget E71T-GS wires run rougher than premium E71T-11 products.
Cost Analysis
Prices at time of writing for common spool sizes:
| Spool Size | E71T-GS (approx.) | E71T-11 (approx.) | Savings with GS |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 lb spool | $10 - 14 | $12 - 18 | $2 - 4 |
| 10 lb spool | $35 - 50 | $45 - 65 | $10 - 15 |
| 25 lb spool | $70 - 100 | $90 - 130 | $20 - 30 |
For a hobbyist buying one 10 lb spool every six months, the $10-15 savings with E71T-GS is meaningful. For a busy shop burning 25 lb spools weekly, the savings per spool is less important than the flexibility and reliability of E71T-11.
The Recommendation
Buy E71T-GS if: You’re doing light-duty, single-pass work on thin material, the joints aren’t structural, and you want to save money. Hobby projects, yard art, light farm repairs on sheet and thin plate are all fine with GS wire.
Buy E71T-11 if: You do any multi-pass welding, weld anything structural, work on material over 1/4" thick, or want a single wire that handles everything. The modest price premium buys you versatility, documented properties, and the confidence that your welds will hold up.
When in doubt: Buy E71T-11. It does everything E71T-GS does plus multi-pass work. There’s no situation where E71T-11 is wrong but E71T-GS is right. You’re paying a small premium for a wire that covers every application.
Common Mistakes
Running multi-pass with E71T-GS: This is the most serious mistake. The single-pass limitation isn’t marketing; it’s metallurgical. Nitrogen embrittlement in multi-pass GS deposits creates hidden defects that fail under load. If you realize mid-joint that you need a second pass, switch to E71T-11 wire before continuing.
Assuming all self-shielded wire is the same: E71T-GS and E71T-11 look identical on the spool. The only way to tell them apart is the label. Keep spools clearly marked and separated. Running GS wire when you think you loaded 11 wire creates non-conforming welds on any job that requires multi-pass capability.
Mixing brands mid-joint: While both E71T-GS and E71T-11 classifications standardize the end result, switching brands in the middle of a weld can cause compatibility issues with slag chemistry and arc behavior. Stick with one brand per joint for consistent results.
Over-tightening drive rolls: Self-shielded flux-core wire is softer than solid wire. Excessive drive roll pressure crushes the tubular wire, restricts flux flow, and causes erratic shielding. Set tension to the minimum that feeds reliably without slipping.
Forgetting to remove slag between passes (with E71T-11): When running multi-pass welds with E71T-11, the heavy slag from each pass must be fully removed before depositing the next. Welding over trapped slag creates voids and weak spots in the finished joint. Chip, brush, and inspect every pass.
Wire Availability and Spool Sizes
Both wires are available in the same spool formats:
- 1 lb and 2 lb spools: For 110V machines with small spool capacity. Convenient for occasional use but expensive per pound.
- 10 lb spools: The standard for home shops and small fabrication. Best balance of cost and convenience.
- 25 lb spools: For busier shops or frequent use. Significant per-pound savings over smaller spools.
E71T-GS is slightly more common in the 1 lb and 2 lb retail packages bundled with budget MIG welders. E71T-11 dominates the 10 lb and 25 lb professional sizes. If you’re buying at a welding supply distributor rather than a hardware store, both are readily available in all sizes.
For detailed specs on each wire, see the E71T-11 guide and the E71T-1 gas-shielded flux-core guide for the shop-grade alternative. For the complete overview, check the flux-cored wire selection guide.